Well, despite the BJJ and MMA community’s best efforts – it seems that all of the hype for the Mark Zuckerberg vs Elon Musk fight has been in vain.
Zuckerberg announced a few months ago, via a Threads post, that even though he would like to fight Musk…
That Musk doesn’t appear to be serious about the bout.
Here’s what he had to say:
I think we can all agree Elon isn’t serious and it’s time to move on.
I offered a real date. Dana White offered to make this a legit competition for charity.
Elon won’t confirm a date, then says he needs surgery, and now asks to do a practice round in my backyard instead.
Therefore, for the time being, Mark Zuckerberg will focus on competing against people who want to compete:
If Elon ever gets serious about a real date and official event, he knows how to reach me.
Otherwise, time to move on.
I’m going to focus on competing with people who take the sport seriously.
Musk recently appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast, where he told BJJ black belt Rogan that he wanted to challenge Zuckerberg to a fight, in any rules set, any time, any place.
Rogan was skeptical about Musk’s fighting skills and asked him about it:
“I trained in judo, Kyokushin (full contact) & no rules streetfighting.”
Musk also said that his greatest asset would be his size. The main reason he believed he would beat Zuckerberg, he kept repeating was the evident weight difference. Rogan showed a picture of fellow podcaster Lex Fridman from the time Musk trained some grappling with him and UFC legend Georges St. Pierre. Elon talked about how Lex is slightly larger and heavier than Zuckerberg and how he apparently didn’t struggle too much with him on the mats.
“There are weight classes for a reason. I do at technique called the walrus where I lay on top of you and you can’t get out.”
Rogan asked him if he had been training recently:
“I don’t need to train to beat him. I’m ready now.”
Rogan was so skeptical that he asked Musk if he had ever witnessed a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu fight where a much smaller individual would defeat a much bigger, equally skilled opponent.
Musk stated that it was “highly unlikely.”
To which Rogan answered, “That happens much more than you’d think. You’d be surprised.”
One Championship president Chatri Sityodong reacted to the situation by calling out “bully” Elon Musk saying that he doesn’t know anything about fighting:
“I normally don’t like to get involved in other people’s spats, but I am compelled to say something on the latest development of the potential fight between Mark Zuckerberg vs Elon Musk. A few hours ago, Elon said that he was planning to show up to Mark’s house to fight him. Elon is one of the greatest entrepreneurs in history and I have a lot of respect for his guts, accomplishments, and intellect.
However, I dislike bullying of any kind.
First, Elon genuinely knows nothing about fighting or martial arts despite his claims to the contrary. As a lifelong expert martial artist who has been in my fair share of scraps, I can tell simply by the way he is acting. The problem with most men who have never fought and/or trained seriously in martial arts is exactly what Elon is doing. They have a false sense of bravado and no understanding or appreciation for what technical skills and knowledge can do in a fight. A legit blue belt in jiu-jitsu is very dangerous to someone who knows nothing.
As CEO of the world’s largest martial arts organization and someone involved in the fight game as my life, I know when people want to fight or not. When people want to fight, they accept a fight and simply show up. When people don’t want to fight, they do exactly what Elon has been doing. They make up excuses, conditions, and reasons for avoiding the fight. Elon has made up puzzling excuse after excuse, be it the need for surgery, the need to do it in the Coliseum in Italy, the idea of doing it through his and Mark’s foundations, the idea of a backyard practice run, etc.
The global martial arts community is small. Consensus from people who have trained with Mark and/or Elon is that there is a large gap in skills in favor of Mark. Mark might be new to martial arts, but he is a real martial artist. He is a legit blue belt in jiu-jitsu under Dave Camarillo and consistently trains hard multiple times a week. Professor Dave is genuinely one of the finest black belts on the planet and his knowledge of both jiu-jitsu and mixed martial arts is unparalleled.
I trained with Mark at his house a few months ago together with his teammates under Professor Dave. As a brown belt under Renzo Gracie, I can tell you that the training environment was truly world-class with utmost seriousness and intensity. Mark might be only 2 years into his journey as a martial artist, but he has fully adopted the warrior way of life. In my expert opinion, Mark will likely choke Elon unconscious in a fight. Elon could win by a lucky punch due to his size and weight. He’s 186cm and weighs 100kg. Mark is 171cm and weighs 70kg. However, Mark is in fighting shape and Elon is not. Mark has the gas tank for 3 rounds and Elon has the gas tank for 3 minutes.
As all martial artists know, skill often trumps size when there is a large disparity in skill. I am not saying that Mark will win 100%. A fight is a fight. Elon could get lucky. What I am saying though is that Mark has a very high probability of winning.”
Mark Zuckerberg has been training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and MMA for about two years now and he’s a serious competitor in BJJ.
What’s more, he recently got promoted to blue belt!
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