How does a team who trains exclusively in no gi do against teams that have a hybrid approach?
Jiu-Jitsu.net which is run by Dan ‘Trumpet Dan’ Lukehart collected the statistics on all adult male blue-black belts from Atos (train both Gi and No Gi) and 10th Planet (Train only No Gi) at the 2015 No Gi Jiu-Jitsu Worlds, to put all the claims to the test.
It has to be said that 10th planet learn a style that doesn’t follow IBJJF rules. A large number of 10th planet’s submissions are illegal submissions at for white, blue and purple belt under IBJJF rules. Heel hooks are also illegal under IBJJF rules.
A more fair comparison would be in a tournament under ADCC rules which allows for almost all submissions.
10th Planet
10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu is a non-traditional system of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu developed by Eddie Bravo. It counts champions such as Geo Martinez, Richie Martinez, Denny Prokopos and many more.
TOTAL 10TH PLANET WIN RATE (13/40): 32.5%
Atos
Founded in 2008, Atos Jiu Jitsu is an academy led by Ramon Lemos and Andre Galvão. It counts champions such as Andre Galvao, the Mendes Brothers (Guilherme and Rafael), JT Torres, Keenan Cornelius and many more.
TOTAL ATOS WIN RATE(55/94): 58.5%
All teams with 20+ registered competitors overall:
1st – ALLIANCE: (52/87) 59.8%
2nd – CARLSON GRACIE: (10/17) 58.8%
3rd – ATOS(55/94): 58.5%
4th – GF TEAM: (12/21) 57.1%
5th – SOUL FIGHTERS: (13/23) 56.5%
6th – BRASA CTA :(18/34) 52.9%
7th – CHECKMAT: (31/63) 49.2%
8th – GRACIE BARRA: (46/102) 45.1%
9th – RIBERIO: (6/16) 37.5%
10th – FIGHT SPORTS: (4/12) 33.3%
11th – 10TH PLANET(13/40): 32.5%
Methods: Only matches where the athletes engaged in competition were used for above stats. Byes did not count as wins. No shows did not count. Closeouts did not count as losses. Team name permutations were included as part of their team (IE Checkmat and Checkmat USA were both counted as “Checkmat”).
Interesting Stats of Atos vs 10th Planet (blue-purple only) :
BLUE BELT ADULT MALE 10TH PLANET:
32% (6/19) of competitors were DQed prior to their first match – the most of any team. Most DQs were by no show.
26% (5/19) won at least one competitive match (includes DQ)
0% (0/19) won at least 2 competitive matches (includes DQ)
Of competitors who had at least one competitive match (not including the DQs), blue belt win rate was 28% (5/18)
PURPLE BELT ADULT MALE 10TH PLANET:
7% (1/14) of competitors were DQed prior to their first match.
50% (7/14) of competitors lost their first match (includes DQ)
43% (6/14) of competitors won at least one competitive match (includes DQ)
14% (2/14) of competitors won at least two competitive matches (includes DQ)
0% (0/14) of competitors won at least 3 competitive matches (includes DQ)
BLUE BELT ADULT MALE ATOS:
0% (0/21) of competitors DQed prior to first match
43% (9/21) of competitors lost their first match. (Note: Atos lost 0% (8/8) of first matches in middle weight and below and 69% (9/13) of first matches above middle)
19% (4/21) of competitors won at least 2 matches
14% (3/21) of competitors won at least 3 matches
10% (2/21) of competitors won at least 4 matches. (Note: one of the competitors was prevented the opportunity to try to win 4 due to close out in finals)
PURPLE BELT MALE ATOS:
13% (1/8) of competitors were DQed before their first match
50% (4/8) of competitors lost their first match. (includes DQ)
25% (2/8) of competitors won at least 2 matches. (includes DQ)
25% (2/8) of competitors won at least 3 matches (includes DQ)
13% (1/8) of competitors won at least 4 matches (note: Other competitor did not get a chance to compete for 4th match due to closeout)
