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Kron Gracie Criticizes Gracie University & Belt Sellers : ‘I’ve Already Lost Students In The Past Because I Didn’t Promote Them’


Kron Gracie Criticizes Gracie University & Belt Sellers : ‘I’ve Already Lost Students In The Past Because I Didn’t Promote Them’

 

 

After Murilo Bustamante and Royce Gracie, another prominent Jiu-Jitsu has spoken out openly against online learning and grading in Jiu-Jitsu, more specifically Gracie University.

 

ADCC 2013 champion Kron Gracie. The son of Rickson, who received his Jiu-Jitsu black belt at 19 years of age, did not spare members of family to discuss the matter.

Dissatisfied, Kron, in an exclusive interview with tatame (in Portuguese), criticized his first cousins and Rener and Ryron Gracie leaders of Gracie University, where up to recently (following controversy and protest from the BJJ community) you used to be able to get a BJJ blue belt online. Now you can get something called a ‘technical blue belt’ online but have to pass a hands on exam with Rener or Ryron to get the blue belt:

“It’s a shame the way the Jiu-Jitsu is being sold. I am ashamed to say that Ryron and Rener teach classes online, and that you can get a belt from a Gracie over the internet. I am sad to know that it’s happening now. Unfortunately, I can not do anything. I do not own the world, I can only control what I do. Jiu-Jitsu is a martial art. You need to put your blood in the gym, hang out with your teacher and earn the belt. It’s something you do not get with time, experience for money and friendship.”

 

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Rickson, Helio and Kron Gracie

Kron ensures that there are teachers that facilitate belt promotions to avoid losing students:

“I’ve already lost students in the past because I didn’t promote them. I’ll promote them when I think I should. It has nothing to do with asking for a promotion. It does not change anything, it’s just a demonstration of their progress. In my gym, there are guys with blue belts for five years. There, when an athlete comes from another team, he wears a white bar on his belt until I think he deserves that belt. This is to show that the belt can not be treated as a sandwich, that you pick up and drop when you want.”

 

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7 thoughts on “Kron Gracie Criticizes Gracie University & Belt Sellers : ‘I’ve Already Lost Students In The Past Because I Didn’t Promote Them’

  1. phil

    I trained Gracie Combatives at home six months and entered a BJJ tournament at Cal State Dominguez because I was getting criticized for training at home by guys who attend academy’s and didn’t want to waste my time ! I took Silver ! I now train at Gracie Academy in Torrance but still use the web site to review my lessons , I cant always go as much as I like so it helps to keep fresh . I can only speak for myself my experience has been very positive !

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  2. juan

    If you learn the true escence of BJJ its not about winning a tournament (but please try the panams or worlds) Its about learning a way of life , about experiencing First hand the teachings and values of your school and your Master that have spent their life Mastering the art, their mind and spirit. This school is out to make a buck and marketing themselves as true “BJJ practitioners” but then again who am I to Judge.

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  3. brian

    I’ve been training for a very long time and have came across many online students. They do “know” a lot of techniques, however a lot of these techniques are wrong because they didn’t have an instructor there in the room to correct the problem. Online training causes bad habits!!

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  4. ByronT

    Totally agree. IBJJF is a much better challenge. Also, how many people were in his division and what previous experience has he had? I know some wrestlers that could easily take a NABJJF tournament with very little training. I’d like to see an online Blue Belt compete in a tournament!

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  5. Bill S

    I’m glad that I read this article! I dunno. I was thinking about the Gracie University because a Gracie Garage is near my area…and it’s free. You just have to pay for the online lessons. But you have someone to work with so if it works it works. I’m kinda split on the whole idea.

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  6. Tiago

    Guys, don’t criticize without trying it or making the effort to understand it first. The main reason why they give you the online option is because it has been proved again and again to work – and it’s only meant for people who do not have access to an academy. It is forbidden to open a garage in the same city as an academy. And once you try out the system, you realize that it takes a lot more discipline and a lot more thinking to train alone and understand the techniques than it does to go to an academy and expect the teacher to think for you. It’s harder than it looks, and it works because the commitment required to go through that process and earn a belt weeds out those who do not deserve it. As for the technique, watch the videos, see how good they are, how much effort was put into them, how much detail they contain. I challenge you to find anything that they forgot to mention for any of the techniques of the Gracie Combatives. What’s more, the mindset is better learnt with these two guys than it is with their steroid-taking uncle Royce. I think what really bothers people is the mass production of good jiujitsu practitioners. Kron is being made redundant by the incredible amount of knowledge that is being left in these videos. What do you do when you see a threat to your bread-earning activity? You put it down. This just follows the same trend we see in all other contexts of knowledge transmission: a shift towards online and dematerialized learning. This is happening anyway, you can either resist it like you would resist Facebook or smartphones, or you can focus your energy on checking that it’s done by the right people. And Rener and Ryron are two damn good ones, you’ll find that they put as much effort into transmitting the right mindset than into passing on the right technique. Truth of the matter is, you only need a physical presence to train, but not to learn about the technique. Have you never watched a BJJ video on YouTube and then tried it on a partner?

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  7. Rita Indriani

    But recently, Kron's father himself, the legendary Rickson Gracie was asked at Budovideos interview whether Jiu-Jitsu (and even "invisible Jiu-Jitsu", as Rickson called it) can be taught on videos, he said "of course it can, you have to tell them and teach them the right mindset". Rickson's stance against the University is that most bad guys out there can see and steal his soul, his technique, so it's kinda a matter of privilege.

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