Retired future UFC Hall of Famer BJ Penn appeared recently on Ariel Helwani’s The MMA Hour, and Helwani asked him about a possible returning to MMA or even Jiu-Jitsu.

Penn said, as transcribed by Adam Guillen Jr. for MMAMania:

“I don’t see myself with the strong will to want to. You never know what the future holds or pops up, but I have no desire to jump into a training camp and try to get out there.”

“Honestly, in the last year, I haven’t even … I went in the gym and did some cardio, but I haven’t done martial arts this past year,” he said. “I’ve been relaxing just catching up on stuff that I missed out in life instead of being in the gym all the time. I’ll get in the gym to do cardio and stuff for my health, but the truth is I haven’t done martial arts at all this last year. I’ll just stop by and do the little stuff. I guess I am young if you see that a 37-year old just won the UFC heavyweight championship (laughs). But, I guess its just how much you are into it. Sometimes it’s not age it’s miles. Who knows, you never know.”

In recent interview with BJPenn.com, BJ talked about his current state, and if he would consider competing in Metamoris:

“I’ve just been hanging out at home, hanging out on the big island, enjoying time with the family and just kind of putting everything into perspective.”

BJ, are you going to stay retired?

“I think I should stay retired. One thing I know is that I put a lot of effort, a lot of energy into this camp. I trained for the last year to do this camp, to do this fight, and one thing at my age…I love training, I was looking to do five fights, but now that I look back and I’ve fought the last four or five times without any reward and staying in training camps and waiting for all these young kids to come in and spar with me; the Dominick Cruzes, the Nik Lentzes. You know? I just sit around for hours on end waiting for them to come in and spar with me and punch me in my face. And not that I don’t hold my own but I’m getting very burnt-out, very exhausted, and very discouraged to not have my hand raised, to not have a smile on my face after the fight, and it’s been a long road and a long fight. If you saw me spar in the gym or workout with any of these guys you would say, ‘man, this guy should be fighting everybody.’ But after the last few fights I’m kind of getting tired.”

About a participation in grappling superfights such as Metamoris:

“When it comes to the competition aspect of anything I just love the Ultimate Fighting so much. I’ve been involved with it for so long. I’m just so used to training for a fight, in those ways, you know, it’d be tough to go back to anything else. I’m not totally counting myself out from doing any professional grappling competitions but one thing that would be different is, I wouldn’t train at all for it. I cannot see myself spending money, bringing people down and this and that, for a grappling competition at this point in my life.”

The MMA legend will be in Las Vegas at the UFC Fan Expo on July 11, 2015, where he will be inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame.